Nola Haynes is not a Spy Podcast Hosted by Nola Haynes

Featuring: Desirée Cormier Smith

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Recorded live from the Foreign Policy for America Summit, Dr. Nola Haynes sits down with some of the most influential voices shaping America's role in the world; from Capitol Hill to the State Department.

Senator Chris Van Hollen explains why he believes America's Cuba policy is failing and where he still finds hope in a turbulent political moment. Former Special Representative Desiree Cormier Smith reflects on being the first person to hold her groundbreaking role at the State Department, the global fight for racial justice, and why faith remains central to her work. Former Under Secretary, Ambassador Bonnie Jenkins breaks down arms control, China's growing influence, AI, nuclear security, and what America risks when it steps back from global leadership. Plus, former Assistant Secretary Mallory Stewart joins Nola for a candid conversation about diplomacy, Iran, space security, existential risk, and why expertise still matters.